Comments on: Helping the Church Navigate Our Racialized Society https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/ Staying true to the foundation of combining Jesus and justice, Red Letter Christians mobilizes individuals into a movement of believers who live out Jesus’ counter-cultural teachings. Tue, 11 Oct 2016 21:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.2.20 By: otrotierra https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209843 Thu, 07 Apr 2016 16:53:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209843 Indeed, an especially important message for RLC’s readership.

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By: redletterchristians https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209842 Thu, 07 Apr 2016 13:24:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209842 This comment has been edited for length.

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By: stephen matlock https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209841 Thu, 07 Apr 2016 07:35:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209841 I apologize if I wasn’t clear, but I don’t think I was saying that people doing bad things should be excused.

What I was trying to say is that people do bad things in pretty much the same way across various sets of groupings, but in many cases there is a specific set of people who are literally targeted for law enforcement.

White males and black males, for example, use recreational drugs at pretty much the same rate. (White males actually use them more, but the variance is not quite enough to be statistically important.)

Yet black males are simply far more likely to be targeted by police for drug investigation and drug use, and therefore become much more likely to have an arrest record, convictions, and drug records that then render them unable to participate in society fully because we don’t want drug criminals and felons in our workplaces, our neighborhoods, and our schools. Because these men are black, we target them for exclusion and arrest.

Literal, actual fact.

Not saying bad things should not be punished

Saying that we, as a society, deliberately choose through our policies and our systems to go after black males.

Yes, it would be great to stop criminalizing drug use. It’s a foolish policy.

But even if we decriminalize drug use, we will still have all the policies and systems in place to target black Americans for law enforcement far, far above the actual rate of crimes committed by black Americans.

Is this clearer?

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By: DX https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209840 Wed, 06 Apr 2016 22:05:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209840 Yep indeed this is true

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By: DX https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209839 Wed, 06 Apr 2016 22:04:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209839 You are correct

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By: DX https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209838 Wed, 06 Apr 2016 22:03:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209838 Good interesting article here

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By: craig https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209837 Wed, 06 Apr 2016 12:21:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209837 It’s always somebody else’s fault. That doesn’t work. The crimes are still being committed.

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By: slufi https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209836 Wed, 06 Apr 2016 01:32:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209836 Actually, Drew specifically calls out the ways that racism is assimilated by all. And you obviously didn’t read the article.

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By: Frank https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209835 Tue, 05 Apr 2016 19:06:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209835 It’s not their race it’s where they live. No doubt blacks live proportionally higher in poorer areas where crime is higher and thus where there’s is a higher police presence. It’s no surprise they get arrested more often. They get arrested for breaking the law lets not forget that.

It’s not about racism no matter how many times you or anyone else claims it is. You do a disservice by misrepresenting it while ignoring the real main issue, poverty and a secondary issue, personal responsibility.

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By: stephen matlock https://www.redletterchristians.org/helping-church-navigate-racialized-society/#comment-209834 Tue, 05 Apr 2016 18:56:00 +0000 https://www.redletterchristians.org/?p=17067#comment-209834 Police *do* look for crime where it is not necessarily more prevalent in order to find crime.

Witness that white Americans use recreational drugs at a slightly higher rate than black Americans. Yet black Americans are much more likely to be arrested for recreational drug use.

Black American males have an astronomically higher chance of being investigated, arrested, charged, tried, found guilty, and imprisoned than any other racial group. It is distinctly racial animus.

Black American college graduates are less likely to be hired for the same job a white high school graduate gets.

Felony convictions result in a lifetime conviction for those so unfortunate as to be involved with the justice system–and the fact that black Americans, especially black American males, are charged with felony crimes means that these men cannot find a place in the American economic and social system that others do–which means black American males aren’t around to be fathers or uncles or brothers or husbands.

The American justice and political system targets black Americans much, much more than any other race or class of people.

It is not class-based. It is race-based.

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